A visit with
the artist reveals him
to be every bit as brilliant,
confounding and heartbreakingly
soulful as the pictures he makes.
to be every bit as brilliant,
confounding and heartbreakingly
soulful as the pictures he makes.
By AUGUSTEN BURROUGHSOCT.
I ARRIVE AT
THE Eggleston Artistic Trust building
at just after 1 on a sweltering, humid Memphis afternoon. I am met at the door
by the charismatic son of the photographer William Eggleston, Winston, who is
the director of the trust as well as its official archivist. He ushers me into
the cool, darkened rear office where his father sits at one of two substantial
desks that are positioned face to face, occupying the center of the room. Large
photographic proof sheets hang on the walls along with old Coke signs. An
illuminated jukebox sits in the corner beside a red midcentury sofa.
At 77,
Eggleston is mischievous, beguiling, puzzling and fascinating, all in nearly
equal measure. He has been called a legend and an icon. He is frequently
referred to as “the godfather of color photography,” even though the
sensational 1976 solo exhibit at New York’s Museum of Modern Art that
established him as such was widely panned at the time. “Critics and so forth
obviously weren’t really looking at this stuff,” he says today. “Didn’t bother
me a bit. I laughed at ’em.”
Eggleston is
impeccably dressed in what he wears every day: a dark suit that he tells me was
made for him on Savile Row, highly polished black shoes, a white shirt and an
untied bow tie around the neck. He smells like bourbon and body lotion. He
wears a Cartier watch, two minutes slow. I ask if he likes to talk about
photography. Eggleston closes his eyes. “It’s tricky,” he says. “Words and
pictures don’t — they’re like two different animals. They don’t particularly
like each other.” He speaks in almost a whisper, his dapper Southern drawl
relaxed further with a slur.
I mention
that for decades people have studied his compositions, the geometry of his
images, which seem to grow more complex the more you look. But this sort of
analysis of his work strikes Eggleston as “nonsense.” Photography is second
nature to him — intuitive not analytical. “I know they’re there, the angles and
compositions,” he says. “Every little minute thing works with every other one
there. All of these
But one
wouldn’t call him a fan, exactly, of photography. “Oh, half of what’s out there
is worthless,” he scoffs. “The only pictures I like are the ones I’ve taken.”
In a way, somebody like Ansel Adams strikes me as the very antithesis of
Eggleston, so I ask what he thinks of him. “We didn’t know each other,” he
says, “but if we did, I’d tell him the same thing: ‘I hate your work.’ ” I had read, though, that
he admired Henri Cartier-Bresson, the French photographer
famed for his work capturing “the decisive moment,” who said one thing
Eggleston recalls with fondness: “You know, William, color is bullshit.” I ask
if the remark dented his confidence. “Oh, no. I just said, ‘Please excuse me,’
and left the table. I went to another table and partied.”
Eggleston’s
images can trick you if you’re not careful. You have to look at them, then you
have to look again and then keep looking until the reason he took the picture
kind of clicks in your chest. In one photograph, taken in the mid-1970s, a
beautiful boy — his son Winston — sits in a padded restaurant booth looking
down at a magazine. Printed on both pages of the magazine (upside down to the
viewer) are guns. The image is a one-two punch. The innocence of the boy breaks
your heart; what he’s reading then stops it for a beat. I tell him, “When I look
at it, it makes me hold my breath a little bit. Do you know what I mean?” He
says, simply, “I do. I feel the same way. I think that’s an incredibly
wonderful picture. I don’t know why.”
In another
famous shot, a naked man stands in a blood-red bedroom. It feels slightly
hallucinogenic and also somewhat sinister: Why is he naked? Why is the room a
mess? I ask Eggleston about the man. “He was my best friend in the world,” he
tells me, before adding, “He was murdered. Somebody hit him in the head with an
ax.” Of yet another famous photo — depicting a longhaired girl lying on the
grass, eyes closed, a camera in her left hand — he tells me she wasn’t
sleeping, she was on Quaaludes.
As I look
through hundreds of his pictures (“You’re going too fast,” he scolds), I wonder
about the images Eggleston doesn’t take. If he’ll shoot a freezer stocked with
frozen entrees, why not the refrigerator below? So I ask about the times when
he thinks of taking an image, perhaps even raises the camera to his eye, but
then changes his mind. What I want to know is, what makes him decide not to
shoot something? “That doesn’t happen,” he says with firm authority. When he
raises the camera to his eye it’s because he’s going to take a picture and the
picture is going to work, the end. He either takes one photograph of his
subject or no photographs of it. There is never a moment of internal
consideration or indecision — there is only certainty — which explains why he
has no favorites: “Each one, to me, is equal, or I didn’t take it to begin
with.” Eggleston can find the perfect gem without ever having to even sift: “I
never think about it beforehand. When I get there, something happens and in a
split second the picture emerges.”
A period of
silence ensues but he does not appear uncomfortable or impatient in the least.
I realize it doesn’t matter what we talk about, or if we talk at all. “The only
thing one can do is really look at the damn things. It’s just not making much
sense to talk about them,” he says.
He politely
answers every one of my questions, sometimes prefaced with a weary, “I’ve been
asked that before.” I have the feeling I could ask him what his credit card
number is and he would tell me if he knew it. It’s not that he’s easygoing but
rather somehow abstract, as if he exists on a plane elsewhere and visits
occasionally when pressed. When I show him Kim Kardashian West’s Instagram, he
says, “I don’t know who that is. I’ve never even heard that name. I mean, she’s
famous like me?” He has an otherworldly quality which explains, completely, the
answer he gave me when I posed the question, if he had to relive his life and
couldn’t be a photographer what might he have done? He replied at once,
“Quantum physics.”
This makes sense.
While I may not be able to imagine Eggleston navigating through the mundanities
of life, such as shopping for groceries or filling out a form of any kind, I
can imagine a sober, sharpened, parallel-universe version of him scribbling out
a Unified Theory of Everything on a paper napkin and then tucking it as a kind
favor into Albert Einstein’s astonished hand. The flow of endless cigarettes,
bottomless drinks, continuous images, the “why try to explain it?”-ness of the
man himself: These qualities testify to something indefinable and
Schrödinger’s-cat-like woven into his very nature. The Eggleston of this
universe is a self-taught photographer who has succeeded in proving all his
savage, elitist and uncomprehending original critics — including The New York
Times — utterly, deliciously wrong. In his pressed suit he stands vindicated,
fire bursting from his fingertips as he lights another American Spirit, a
flesh-and-blood world changer. Everywhere he looks he notices things others
miss. “I see great pictures all the time,” he says, and that is unequivocally
dazzling.
WE LEAVE THE
OFFICES of the Eggleston Trust and go to his apartment. The first thing one
sees upon entering is a bright red plastic sign with a yellow border, printed
with capitalized white sans-serif text. It warns, “THE OCCUPANT OF THIS
APARTMENT WAS RECENTLY HOSPITALIZED FOR COMPLICATIONS DUE TO ALCOHOL. HE IS ON
A MEDICALLY PRESCRIBED DAILY PORTION OF ALCOHOL. IF YOU BRING ADDITIONAL
ALCOHOL INTO THIS APARTMENT YOU ARE PLACING HIM IN MORTAL DANGER. YOUR ENTRY
AND EXIT INTO THIS APARTMENT IS BEING RECORDED. WE WILL PROSECUTE SHOULD THIS
NOTICE BE IGNORED. THE EGGLESTON FAMILY.” It is a devastating thing to see.
Heartbreaking. I was also an alcoholic for decades, the kind who had shakes and
saw spiders. I’m not even through the hallway and my mind is racing from “I
want that sign” to “What kind of doctor prescribes alcohol for an alcoholic?
Where was he when I was drinking?”
I ask if his
drinking ever got in the way of his photography. “I’ve never been able to take
a picture after a drink,” he says. “It just doesn’t work. Maybe — I don’t know
what it is. It’s not like I’m too drunk to take a picture. I just — the whole
idea of it just goes away after one or two drinks.” Eggleston perches atop the
bench in front of his Bösendorfer concert grand piano. An active ashtray and a
sweating tumbler of icy bourbon on a burn-marked coaster sit inside the piano
directly on the frame. He reaches for the glass and takes several small, noisy
sips and his body visibly relaxes. I know his relief, exactly. “I’m gonna get
this drink down,” he tells me. And as soon as he does he wants another. He
suggests that I pour one for myself and join him but I tell him that I don’t
drink anymore, that once I start I can’t ever stop. He replies, “Well, I can
stop, but I’ll admit I want another one.”
With a fresh
drink beading water atop his piano, Eggleston plays “Ol’ Man River” from the
Broadway musical “Show Boat.” At times, I recognize the piece, but then beneath
Eggleston’s deft fingers it wanders off, meandering and exploring. He plays for
20 minutes, never quite beginning or ending but also never hitting a single
sour note.
“Are you a
genius?” I ask him. His fingers instantly leave the piano keys, suspended in
midair above them, and he swivels toward me with an expression of bald
incredulity, as if I have asked, “Do you use toilet paper?” His eyes are
grayish-blue until just before the pupil where the color becomes something
close to honey, and they are fixed on my own. He replies in a breathy, almost
pitying drawl, “Well, yes.” The unspoken message is clear: You’ve spent all day
with me and you even have to ask?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/17/t-magazine/william-eggleston-photographer-interview-augusten-burroughs.html?_r=0
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